- #30/31 - 7 buses
- #32x - 1 bus
- #50 - 9 buses
- #57x - 2 buses
- #61 - 4 buses
- #70x - 2 buses (there are 3 in 62 minutes)
- #72 - 3 buses
- #75 - 3 buses
This is a total of 31 buses that are providing commuter service that would in theory be partially or completely replaced by the LRT. The total capacity of these buses going northbound is about 2600 to 2700 people. Even if we only look at the buses using Douglas all the way to Uptown, that is 22 buses in that hour with a capacity of around 1800 to 2000 - the variation in both cases is because I do not know the mix of double decker and other buses on the routes.
The LRT, as outlined in the Victoria Regional Rapid Transit Project Report, is stated to be a 40 metre long train, I assume this is a three car train. This train has a capacity, according to the report of 230 people. The system is to start with 13 trains and eventually move to 20 trains.
With 13 trains and a 90 minute round trip, no more than 9 trains can pass through Uptown in one hour and most hours the limit will be 8. The 90 minute round trip assumes no stopping time at either terminal for the operator to have a break.
9 trains with a capacity of 230 passengers means a total capacity outbound during the peak rush hour of 2070.
With the eventual 20 trains, this will be 13 trains in an hour passing this point for a maximum fully built out LRT being able to handle 2990 people in one hour.
Current bus capacity is about 600 more people per hour more than the LRT would initially be able to move.
If all those buses were double deckers, the capacity would be 3100 for the buses, which is higher than the projected final maximum for the LRT.
So what is the maximum capacity theoretically possible for the LRT? Given the restrictions of Douglas Street downtown, a headway of less than 4 minutes is functionally impossible as long as there are traffic lights downtown. I honestly think 5 minute headway is the best that could be consistently achieved and the 20 train final LRT seems to bear that out, but let us look at 4 minute headway.
A 4 minute headway would be 15 trains per hour and this would give us an upper capacity of 3450 people.
So what is the possible capacity of buses on Douglas Street? How long is a piece of string? The theoretical limit to how many buses that could operate is way beyond what demand could ever be.
At the moment, between 4 pm and 5 pm, 81 buses cross Yates Street going northbound on Douglas. This is a capacity of around 6900 to 7000 passengers which should give everyone a sense of how many people buses could move along Douglas if we wanted them all to go to the Westshore.
So why is the LRT being proposed as a solution when it can not handle more passengers than the current buses? There is no more space for new transit passengers than what we have at the moment and we want to spend a $1,000,000,000 to build the system?
5 comments:
Comprehensive analysis... I've been re-considering my support for LRT based on numbers like this.
All levels of government seem all too willing to spend vast sums of OUR money based on 'warm fuzzy feelings' rather than looking at the science (sewage treatment),the numbers (LRT) or the demand (Mactavish interchange).
I don't understand why you keep talking either/or? The there would still be buses would there not?
According to the plans of BC Transit there would be no buses running on Douglas or Blanshard at any point for any distance.
The current plans with the LRT would be to no longer have the #4, #14, #21, #22 etc... run at all on Douglas. I have not considered the loss of those buses as there is no physical way the LRT could accommodate them. Though any buses north/south would have to run on Blanshard due to a lack of lane space in the downtown core on Douglas after the LRT.
What we can be certain of is that there will be the buses from the Westshore, Royal Oak and the Peninsula would all be either replaced by the LRT or end at Uptown.
The details of the loss of buses on Douglas is all contained in the May 2011 BC Transit Future plan for Victoria.
Now I'm really confused. The #4, #14 etc are not on your list in the post. What I am asking is if you are assuming that all bus service for the routes you named will be replaced 100% by LRT or not? You are speaking as if the LRT must replace all the capacity of the buses listed in your comparison which I find odd. I would assume that some of these bus routes would still run in some form allowing for greater overall capacity and flexibility.
According to BC Transit current plans there will be no buses at all on Douglas at any point.
BC Transit plans on ending the 30,31, 70 and 75 specifically will all end at Uptown. To get from Uptown to downtown you will have to take the LRT.
Read the plans, this is what they are saying in black and white
Post a Comment